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Name: | Mary OLDEN |
Sex: | Female |
Father: | James OLDEN (1807-1895) |
Mother: | Ann HAYTER (1801?-1885) |
Birth | 7 Nov 1845 | Romsey & Mitchelmersh, Hampshire, England1,2 |
Carter's Clay, Lockerley, Hants, SO51 0GN | ||
Christening | 28 Dec 1845 (age 0) | Romsey & Mitchelmersh, Hampshire, England2,3 |
Carter's Clay, Lockerley, Hants, SO51 0GN | ||
Census | 30 Mar 1851 (age 5) | Romsey, Hampshire, England "GRO District"2,4 |
Carter's Clay, Lockerley, Hants, SO51 0GN | ||
Occupation | 30 Mar 1851 (age 5) | Scholar; Romsey, Hampshire, England "GRO District"4 |
Census | 7 Apr 1861 (age 15) | Havant, Hampshire, England5 |
Parsonage Mills, Durrants, Havant, Hants, PO9 | ||
Occupation | 7 Apr 1861 (age 15) | Servant; Havant, Hampshire, England5 |
Parsonage Mills, Durrants, Havant, Hants, PO9 | ||
Census | 2 Apr 1871 (age 23) | Romsey, Hampshire, England "GRO District"2,6 |
Carter's Clay, Lockerley, Hants, SO51 0GN | ||
Occupation | frm 1874 (age 28-29) | Housewife |
Census | 3 Apr 1881 (age 34) | Romsey, Hampshire, England "GRO District"7,8 |
Hatt Hill, Mottisfont, Hants, SO51 0LH | ||
Census | 5 Apr 1891 (age 44) | Romsey, Hampshire, England "GRO District"8,9 |
Hatt Hill, Mottisfont, Hants, SO51 0LH | ||
Census | 31 Mar 1901 (age 54) | South Stoneham, Hampshire, England "GRO District"10 |
182, High Street, Bishopstoke, Eastleigh, Hants, SO50 5LW | ||
Census | 2 Apr 1911 (age 64) | South Stoneham, Hampshire, England "GRO District"11 |
162, Southampton Road, Bishopstoke, Eastleigh, Hants, SO50 5QX Completed years the present Marriage has lasted: 39 Total number of Children Born Alive: 7 Total number of Children still Living: 7 Total number of Children who have Died: 0 |
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Correspondence | 6 Jan 1916 (age 70) | son Harry; Camelford, Cornwall, England12 |
Camelford, Cornwall, PL32 | ||
Death | 10 Mar 1929 (age 82) | Winchester, Hampshire, England "GRO District"13,14 |
Cause: Bronchitis & Chronic Nephritis Address: Treforest, North End Road, Chandler's Ford, Eastleigh, Hants, SO53 3AX WorkInProgress\LegalPapers\TATE, Mary 1929-04-04 Probate AncestryUK |
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Burial | 14 Mar 1929 (age 82) | Eastleigh, Hampshire, England "GRO District"15,16,17 |
Eastleigh Cemetery, Brookwood Avenue, Bishopstoke, Eastleigh, Hants, SO50 9EN | ||
Obituary | 15 Mar 1929 (age 82) | Eastleigh, Hampshire, England "GRO District"15 |
Spouse | Henry TATE (1845-1938) | |
Children | Henry TATE (1874-1968?) | |
William James TATE (1875-1966?) | ||
Robert Heathcote TATE (1878-1944) | ||
Norman TATE (1879-1970) | ||
Matthew John Thomas TATE (1882-1967) | ||
Melcham Bernard TATE (1885-1971) | ||
Bertha Mary TATE (1888-1955) | ||
Marriage | 6 Sep 1873 (age 27) | Romsey, Hampshire, England "GRO District"18,19 |
Parish Church, Lockerley, Hants, SO51 | ||
Co-residence | frm 1879 to 1895 (age 33-50) | the family home; Romsey, Hampshire, England "GRO District"8 |
Hatt Hill, Mottisfont, Hants, SO51 0LH Mary's brother James OLDEN & Emma SUGG lived next door at Mount Farm about 1901 |
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Years Married | 2 Apr 1911 (age 65) | 3911 |
Child Census | 2 Apr 1911 (age 65) | 7 born, 7 living11 |
Co-residence | frm 1920 (age 74-75) | their lives; Winchester, Hampshire, England "GRO District"13,14,20 |
Treforest, North End Road, Chandler's Ford, Eastleigh, Hants, SO53 3AX |
GenesReunited tree match 2010: Laura Lincoln and Hayley Gould
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Index : OLDEN, Mary Romsey VII 168. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Cit. Date: 22 November 1845. |
2 | Locations Database Record Carter's Clay, Lockerley, Hants | |||||||||||||||||||
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3 | The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, OLDEN, Mary 1845 Christening (Batch: K136941 Sheet: 00 Source: 1041253 Printout: 6900732 Dates: 1583 - 1876). | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Cit. Date: 28 December 1845. |
4 | GRO, 1851 HO107 1671 347 04 OLDEN, James (HO107 1671 347 04 16). | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Cit. Date: 30 March 1851. |
5 | GRO, 1861 RG09 0631 082 12 OLDEN, Mary (RG09 0631 082 12 67). | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Cit. Date: 7 April 1861. |
6 | GRO, 1871 RG10 1204 093 07 OLDEN, James (RG10 1204 093 07 41). | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Cit. Date: 2 April 1871. |
7 | GRO, 1881 RG11 1226 054 16 TATE, Henry (RG11 1226 054 16 95). | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Cit. Date: 3 April 1881. |
8 | Locations Database Record Hatt Hill, Mottisfont, Hants |
District: Romsey. |
9 | GRO, 1891 RG12 0931 047 15 TATE, Henry (RG12 0931 047 15 94). | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Cit. Date: 5 April 1891. |
10 | GRO, 1901 RG13 1066 102 34 TATE, Henry (RG13 1066 102 34 202). | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Cit. Date: 31 March 1901. |
11 | GRO, 1911 RG14 06056 RG78 0276 100 2 08 061 TATE, Henry (RG14 06056 RG78 0276 100 2 08 061). | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Cit. Date: 2 April 1911. |
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Cit. Date: 6 January 1916. |
13 | GRO, TATE nee OLDEN, Mary 1929 Death (1929 Q1 Winchester 2c 297 28). | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Index 278: TATE, Mary 82 Winchester 2c 297. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Cit. Date: 12 March 1929. |
14 | Locations Database Record Treforest, North End Road, Chandler's Ford, Eastleigh, Hants |
District: Winchester. |
15 | TATE nee OLDEN, Mary 1929 Obituary (Obituary 15 March 1929). |
Text From Source: The Late Mrs. Tate. - The death of Mrs. Mary Tate, aged 82 years, the wife of Mr. Henry Tate, of North End Road, took place last Sunday afternoon after a month's illness. The deceased was very much respected and much sympathy is felt for the husband and family. They had been married over 54 years. Mr. Tate is a retired railwayman, and he has held the position of Parish Clerk and assistant overseer to the Motisfont parish for over 46 years. The funeral took place yesterday (Thursday) at Eastleigh. |
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District: Romsey. | |
Cit. Date: 15 March 1929. |
16 | Eastleigh Cemetery, TATE, Henry & OLDEN, Mary 1938 Gravestone (Memorial ID 125900639 & 125900557 by Frank Grant). |
Text From Source: In Loving Memory MARY the beloved wife of HENRY TATE who died March 10th 1929 Aged 82 Years an everlasting rest Also of HENRY TATE who died May 2nd 1938 Aged 93 Years |
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Eastleigh Cemetery photos at: https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2296209/eastleigh-cemetery. |
17 | Natalie Victoria Hyde, HYDE nee HILL, Natalie Victoria 2018 Email (https://www.ancestry.com/connect/messagecenter/folder/inbox). |
Text From Source: Natalie Hyde Jan 06, 2019 Thanks Mike that’s great. I went to the cemetery today and found the grave stone of William James Tate and Maud Lillian...I will put the picture up. I couldn’t find Maud Tate (age 1) as there was no stone. I will go again soon! Thanks tatewise5a Jan 04, 2019 Hi Natalie, The person next to William has now appeared as Sidney TATE who you have baptised 1 Nov 1903, born 8 Oct 1903, but sadly died Q1 1904 all in Poplar, London. I have research the 1841, 1851, 1861 Census records for Eliza Taylor, which is often the best way to find family relationships. 1841 has the Hayward & Taylor family in East Knoyle, Mere, Wilts: Susanna Hayward age 60 (mother of Emily & Eliza) Emily Hayward age 20 William Taylor age 30 (father of children below) Eliza Taylor age 26 (nee Hayward mother of children) Eliza Taylor age 1 with three older siblings John, William & Susanna 1851 has four of the above also in East Knoyle, Mere, Wilts: Susan Hayward Widow 73 (so William died between 1841 & 1851) Emily Hayward Head 31 John Taylor Nephew 17 Eliza Taylor Niece 10 Not found in 1861 yet, but have parish marriage in East Knoyle: 08 Jul 1833 William Taylor and Elizabeth Hayward with witnesses John Taylor and Thomas Hayward Hope that helps, Mike Tate Natalie Hyde Jan 04, 2019 Mike - I cant seem to get some correct information for the Mother of Eliza, I know that's veering off the track of Tate however. All I seem to have found is her maiden name of Hayward. I cant see anything next to William Tate, so not sure what that is... thanks Natalie Natalie Hyde Jan 04, 2019 Happy new year Mike. I was going to say hope you had a restful Christmas break but by the amount of info you've found you must of been hard at the research! Thank you for finding the true surname of Eliza, when I found POWELL I must say I wasn't 100% sure. and thank you for the tip on the GRO website, not heard of that before so that's makes it easier to check mothers maiden names! They are all my Aunts and Uncles and my mother is the youngest; born on 3rd December 1961. My husband is Jonathan Matthew Cockburn - Born 5th July 1985 I will have a look at the private entry next to William Tate...and write another message! best wishes Natalie tatewise5a Jan 02, 2019 Happy New Year Natalie, I found time between the festivities to review & research this part of the family tree, mainly focussing on the 1939 Register, but many other records too. The updated trees are online as listed below, followed by a summary of my key discoveries. http://www.tatewise.co.uk/ancestry/ https://www.zoompast.com/tree/public_tree_of_user?user_name=tatewise&tree_id=10038 Your great-grandmother was born Maud Lily Flowers, and did not adopt the middle name Lilian until she was 20. Her mother was Eliza TAYLOR (1840-1907) not POWELL. That is proved by the free GRO Online Index Search at https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp Name: FLOWERS, MAUD LILY Mother's Maiden Surname: TAYLOR GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter ATHERSTONE 06D 450 Unless you have a Birth Certificate, etc, that proves differently. I have significantly updated your great-aunts & uncles, the siblings of Lilian & Maud, but in your tree there is a Private entry next to William TATE. Can you give me any clues to their identity. Also I have few conclusive details for Winifred TATE. I have found the following possible children of your grandparents. Which ones are actually your aunts & uncles? Q1 1942 Diane Winchester 2c 266 Q4 1944 Robert J New Forest 2b 1156 Q4 1946 Lynda Winchester 6b 1207 Q1 1956 Roger P Winchester 6b 1040 Q3 1957 Julie A Winchester 6b 1102 Best Regards and fruitful researching in 2019, Mike Tate Natalie Hyde Dec 21, 2018 That's a fantastic website you've built Mike, its great to know all my research has been correct. They were twins yes, Maud died aged 1 in 1920...which I've only just been able to confirm to my Mum recently as they were never sure. no idea what of however. They were born in 97 Nutbeem Road, Eastleigh. Lilian died on 23rd March 1974. On my tree, you can see all the further research of the other siblings. I will let you know of anything else I find out in Brookwood very best wishes, have a great Christmas Natalie tatewise5a Dec 20, 2018 Hi Natalie, Henry and Mary are my great-grandparents and my descendant line is through their son Matthew John Thomas, and his son Bernard. I have comprehensive family records at http://www.tatewise.co.uk/ancestry/ that you are welcome to visit. A link on the Home page takes you to Matthew John Thomas TATE my grandfather where you can easily navigate to either Henry TATE or William James TATE. You can also find people via the Index tab. The same family tree is shown in a novel presentation at https://www.zoompast.com/tree/public_tree_of_user?user_name=tatewise&tree_id=9990. You speak of “Lillian and her baby sister Maud” but my research shows their births were registered together in Q2 1919 so they appear to be twins. Currently I have little more than birth dates for their siblings, but a short search quickly found further records, so I suspect I will be adding to this branch soon. I would certainly be interested in anything you discover at the Brookwood cemetery is in Eastleigh. Merry Christmas, Mike Tate Natalie Hyde Dec 13, 2018 Hi Mike, thanks for your reply. What line do you decent from? I found you as your username was on some of the images you had submitted on Ancestry, such as the grave stone of Henry and Mary and the marriage certificates. Brookwood cemetary is in Eastleigh, Hampshire - which is where my immediate family is from. So Henry and Mary Tate are there, Lillian and her baby sister Maud, and William J and Maud Lillian. Then several siblings I believe too. I plan to go this weekend so will take some photos of we find them. My maternal Grandmother Lillian died when my mother was 12, so the main reason for my research was so she could know when she came from and any further info...it’s been nice to show her some bits! Best Wishes and look forward to hearing from you Natalie tatewise5a Dec 13, 2018 Hi Natalie, That is really interesting and opens up a new branch on my tree. I think it makes us 2nd cousins once removed. I've 9 siblings of Lilian Lewis nee Tate with birth dates & places, but only a few more details for two of them. As a matter of interest where did you find my family tree? Was it on Ancestry or somewhere else? Where exactly is Brookwood Cemetery as I could not find it near where many of my ancestors are known to have died? Which members of the Tate family are buried there? Hope to hear from you soon. Regards, Mike Tate Natalie Hyde Dec 11, 2018 Hi there - I’ve used so much of your amazing research in my own search for the Tate’s! I think Henry and Mary Tate are my great great grandparents. My mum is Sharon Lewis, her mum was Lillian Tate, her dad and mum were William J Tate and Maud Lillian Flowers and then his dad Henry Tate. I’m hoping my research is correct. Almost the whole Tate family are buried in Brookwood Cemetary about half a mile from where I live! If you could tell me anymore about the Tate’s that would be amazing - best wishes Natalie Hyde nee Hill |
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Cit. Date: 6 September 1873. |
19 | ~ Lockerley, Hants. Custom Id: 662. |
District: Romsey. |
20 | GRO, TATE, Henry 1938 Death (1938 Q2 Winchester 2c 134 263). | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Cit. Date: 3 May 1938. |