Maud Lily FLOWERS (1880-1969?)

Name:	Maud Lily FLOWERS
Sex:	Female
Alt. Name:	Maud Lilian TATE
Father:	William FLOWERS (1838-1891)
Mother:	Eliza TAYLOR (1840-1907)

Individual Events and Attributes

Birth	7 Aug 1880	Atherstone, Warwickshire, England "GRO District"^{1,2,3,4,5,6,7}
Baptism	3 Oct 1880 (age 0)	Atherstone, Warwickshire, England "GRO District"⁸
Census	3 Apr 1881 (age 0 yrs 7 mns)	Atherstone, Warwickshire, England "GRO District"⁷
	Vero's Yard, 7-9, Long Street, Atherstone, Coventry, Warks, CV9 1AX
Census	5 Apr 1891 (age 10)	Atherstone, Warwickshire, England "GRO District"⁶
	Welcome Street, Atherstone, Coventry, Warks, CV9 1DU
Occupation	31 Mar 1901 (age 20)	Envelope Packer; Wandsworth, Surrey/London, England "GRO District"⁵
	Employer, Worker, or Own account: Worker
Census	31 Mar 1901 (age 20)	Wandsworth, Surrey/London, England "GRO District"⁵
	21, William Street, Battersea, London, SW11
Residence	27 Jul 1901 (age 20)	Poplar, London, England "GRO District"⁹
	164, Devons Road, Bow, Bromley, London, E3 3PU
Census	2 Apr 1911 (age 30)	Winchester, Hampshire, England "GRO District"^4,10
	23, St.Margarets Road, Bishopstoke, Eastleigh, Hants, SO50 6DG Completed years the present Marriage has lasted: 9 Total number of Children Born Alive: 6 Total number of Children still Living: 5 Total number of Children who have Died: 1
Occupation	29 Sep 1939 (age 59)	Domestic Duties Unpaid; Eastleigh, Hampshire, England "GRO District"³
Census	29 Sep 1939 (age 59)	Eastleigh, Hampshire, England "GRO District"³
	64, Southampton Road, Bishopstoke, Eastleigh, Hants, SO50 5Q?
Death	12 Jul 1969 (app) (age 88)	Winchester, Hampshire, England "GRO District"^2,11
	The Mount Hospital, Church Lane, Bishopstoke, Eastleigh, Hants, SO50 6DR
Burial	Jul 1969	Eastleigh, Hampshire, England "GRO District"^12,13
	Eastleigh Cemetery, Brookwood Avenue, Bishopstoke, Eastleigh, Hants, SO50 9EN

Marriage

Spouse	William James TATE (1875-1966?)
Children	William TATE (1902-1988)
	Sidney TATE (1903-1904)
	Gladys Ivy TATE (1905-1993)
	Ronald TATE (1906-1983?)
	Winifred TATE (1908- )
	Matthew TATE (1909-1989)
	Hilda TATE (1911-2002)
	Megan TATE (1914-1995)
	Bernard TATE (1916-1998)
	Lilian TATE (1919-1974)
	Maud TATE (1919-1920)
Marriage	27 Jul 1901 (age 20)	Poplar, London, England "GRO District"^9,11
	St.Stephen's Parish Church, Tredegar Road, Bow, Stratford, London, E3 2EL
Years Married	2 Apr 1911 (age 30)	9⁴
Child Census	2 Apr 1911 (age 30)	6 born, 5 living, 1 died⁴

Sources

GRO, FLOWERS, Maud Lily 1880 Birth (1880 Q3 Atherstone 6d 450 E?).

Text From Source:
First name(s)	MAUD LILY
Last name	FLOWERS
Birth year	1880
Birth quarter	3
Registration month	-
Mother's name	Taylor
District	Atherstone
County	Warwickshire
Country	England
Volume	6D
Page	450
Record set	England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category	Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory	Civil Births
Collections from	Great Britain, England

Index 179: FLOWERS, Maud Lily Atherstone 6d 450.

Cit. Date: Q3 1880.

GRO, TATE nee FLOWERS, Maud Lily 1969 Death.

Text From Source:
First name(s)	MAUD LILIAN
Last name	TATE
Gender	Female
Birth day	7
Birth month	8
Birth year	1880
Age	-
Death quarter	3
Death year	1969
District	Winchester
County	Hampshire
Volume	6B
Page	1885
Country	England
Record set	England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category	Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory	Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from	Great Britain, England

Index 828: TATE, Maud Lilian 7 Aug 1880 Winchester 6b 1885.

Cit. Date: Q3 1969.

TNA, 1939 RG101 2331A 021 41 TATE, William James (RG101 2331A 021 41 EDGV 278).

Text From Source:

Ref:

RG101/2331A/021/41

Letter Code:

EDGV

County:

Hampshire

Borough:

Eastleigh

District:

101-3

Address:

64, Southampton Road

Name of person

Status

Gender

Birthdate

Cond.

Occupation

Schedule

William J Fate

18 Oct 1875

Gas Fitter Heavy Worker

278 1

Maud L Fate

07 Aug 1880

Unpaid Domestic Duties

278 2

Cit. Date: 29 September 1939.

Source: 1939 RG101 2331A 021 41 TATE, William James, 1939 RG101 2331A 021 41 TATE, William James FindMyPast

GRO, 1911 RG14 06130 RG78 0284 103 3 01 150 TATE, William James (RG14 06130 RG78 0284 103 3 01 150).

Text From Source:

District:

Winchester

Sub-district:

Twyford

Enum.District:

Eccl.District:

Parish:

Bishopstoke

City/Borough:

Address:

23 St.Margarets Road, Bishopstoke, Eastleigh

County:

Hampshire

Name

Relation

Sex

Age

Married

Occupation

Industry

Employ Status

At Home

Where Born

William James Tate

Head

Gas Fitter

Railway Works

Worker

Stockbridge, Hants

Maud Lilian Tate

Wife

M 9yrs

Atherstone, Warwickshire

William Tate

Son

Scholar

Bow, London

Gladys Ivy Tate

Dau

Scholar

Bow, London

Ronald Tate

Son

Bow, London

Winifred Tate

Dau

Bow, London

Matthew Tate

Son

Bow, London

Children

Born

Living

Died

Cit. Date: 2 April 1911.

Source: 1911 RG14 06130 RG78 0284 103 3 01 150 TATE, William James, 1911 RG14 06130 RG78 0284 103 3 01 150 TATE, William James FindMyPast

GRO, 1901 RG13 0445 112 14 FLOWERS, Eliza (RG13 0445 112 14 77).

Text From Source:

District:

Wandsworth

Sub-district:

Enum.District:

Eccl.District:

Parish:

St.Andrew

City/Borough:

Battersea, Nine Elms

Address:

21, William Street, Battersea

County:

Surrey/London

Name

Relation

Condition

Sex

Age

Occupation

Employ Status

At Home

Where Born

Eliza Flowers

Head

East Knoyle, Wilts

Edgar Flowers

Son

Labourer Potterery

Worker

Middlesex

Walter Flowers

Son

Laundryman

Worker

Atherstone, Warwick

Maud Flowers

Daughter

Envelope Packer

Worker

Atherstone, Warwick

Cit. Date: 31 March 1901.

Source: 1901 RG13 0445 112 14 FLOWERS, Eliza, 1901 RG13 0445 112 14 FLOWERS, Eliza FindMyPast

GRO, 1891 RG12 2443 100 17 FLOWERS, William (RG12 2443 100 17 99).

Text From Source:

District:

Atherstone

Sub-district:

Enum.District:

Eccl.District:

St.Mary

Parish:

City/Borough:

Atherstone, Nuneaton

Address:

Welcome Street, Atherstone, Warks

County:

Warwickshire

Name

Relation

Condition

Sex

Age

Occupation

Employ Status

Where Born

William Flowers

Head

Railway Signalman

Employed

Sonning, Berkshire

Eliza Flowers

Wife

Knoyle, Wiltshire

Edgar W Flowers

Son

Hatter

Employed

Somerstown, London

Charles W Flowers

Son

Hatter

Employed

Rugby, Warwickshire

Ernest A Flowers

Son

Hatter

Employed

Atherstone, Warwickshire

Sydney H Flowers

Son

Hatter

Employed

Atherstone, Warwickshire

Walter J Flowers

Son

Errand Boy

Employed

Atherstone, Warwickshire

Maude L Flowers

Daughter

Scholar

Atherstone, Warwickshire

Cit. Date: 5 April 1891.

Source: 1891 RG12 2443 100 17 FLOWERS, William, 1891 RG12 2443 100 17 FLOWERS, William FindMyPast

GRO, 1881 RG11 3058 004 02 FLOWERS, William (RG11 3058 004 02 6).

Text From Source:

District:

Atherstone

Sub-district:

Enum.District:

Eccl.District:

Parish:

St.Mary

City/Borough:

Address:

Vero's Yard, Atherstone

County:

Warwickshire

Name

Relation

Condition

Sex

Age

Occupation

Where Born

William Flowers

Head

Mar

Railway Signalman

Sonning, Berks

Eliza Flowers

Wife

Mar

Knoyle, Wilts

Edgar William Flowers

Son

Unm

Errand Boy

London, Middlesex

Gertrude Emily Flowers

Daughter

Unm

Hat Trimmer

London, Middlesex

Charles Warwick Flowers

Son

Unm

Fitting Stamper

Rugby, Warwick

Henry Augustus Flowers

Son

Unm

Scholar

Atherstone, Warwick

Ernest Albert Flowers

Son

Unm

Scholar

Atherstone, Warwick

Sydney Herbert Flowers

Son

Unm

Scholar

Atherstone, Warwick

William John Flowers

Son

Unm

Atherstone, Warwick

Maud Lily Flowers

Daughter

Unm

7 mnths

Atherstone, Warwick

Cit. Date: 3 April 1881.

Source: 1881 RG11 3058 004 02 FLOWERS, William, 1881 RG11 3058 004 02 FLOWERS, William FindMyPast

Warwickshire County Record Office, FLOWERS, Maud Lily 1880 Baptism (DR0322/3).

Text From Source:
First name(s)	Maud Lily
Last name	Flowers
Birth year	-
Baptism year	1880
Baptism date	03 Oct 1880
Denomination	Anglican
Place	Atherstone
Father 1st name	William
Father last name	Flowers
Mother 1st name	Eliza
Residence	Atherstone
Father occupation	Signalman
County	Warwickshire
Country	England
Document type	Parish registers
Archive	Warwickshire County Record Office
Archive reference	DR0322/3
Event	Baptisms
Page	53
Records yr range	1877-1896
Record set	Warwickshire Baptisms
Category	Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory	Parish Baptisms
Collections from	England, Great Britain

Source: FLOWERS, Maud Lily 1880 Baptism, FLOWERS, Maud Lily 1880-10-03 Baptism FindMyPast

GRO, TATE, William James & FLOWERS, Maud Lilian 1901 Marriage (1901 Q3 Poplar 1c 838 306).

Text From Source:
Page:	158
District:	Poplar
Place:	Parish Church
Parish:	St.Stephen Bow
County:	London
Entry No:	306
When:	27 July 1901
Name:	William James Tate	Maud Lilian Flowers
Age:	25 years	20 years
Condition:	Bachelor	Spinster
Profession:	Plumber	-
Residence:	164 Devons Road	164 Devons Road
Father:	Henry Tate	William Flowers (d.)
Profession:	Blacksmith	Railway Signalman
Witnesses:	George Gosson & Jessie Eliza Marston
Married after Banns by Henry C Leason Vicar

Index 335: TATE, William James	Poplar	1c 838
Index 119: FLOWERS, Maud Lilian	Poplar	1c 838.

Cit. Date: 27 July 1901.

Source: TATE, William James & FLOWERS, Maud Lilian 1901 Marriage, TATE, William James 1901-07-27 Marriage

Source: TATE, William James & FLOWERS, Maud Lilian 1901 Marriage, TATE, William James 1901 Q3 Marr FreeBMD

Source: TATE, William James & FLOWERS, Maud Lilian 1901 Marriage, FLOWERS, Maud Lilian 1901 Q3 Marr FreeBMD

10	Locations Database Record 23 St.Margarets Road, Bishopstoke, Eastleigh, Hants
	District: Winchester.

Julianne Tate, ~My Heritage~Tate Web Site (www.myheritage.com/site-76848741/tate).

Text From Source:

TATE, William

Marriage

Sep 16

1976 sic

BAST, Matilda

TATE, Philip M

Birth

1878

TATE, Henry

Birth

1845

Llanrabon, Glamorgan, Wales / Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales

Christen

16th Mar

1845/46

TATE, William James

Death

Apr 18

1966

Marriage

July 27

1901

Poplar, Middlesex, Tower Hamlets

FLOWERS, Maud Lilian

Marriage

July 27

1901

Poplar, Middlesex, Tower Hamlets

TATE, William James

Death

July 12

1969

Mount Hospital Bishopstoke Eastleigh

TATE, Ronald

Birth

Sep 14

1906

Poplar, Bromley, London

Residence

32 Grantham Road, Eastleigh, Hampshire SO5 5FJ

Occupation

Coach Maker / Setter OUt (Railways)

Marriage

Apr 27

1929

St Margarets Church Eastney Southsea

FELLOWES, Lilian Harriett

Death

May 5

1983

Southampton on the way to General Hospital, Southampton

FELLOWES, Lilian Harriett

Birth

Nov 6

1906

Edmonton, Wood Green

Marriage

Apr 27

1929

St Margarets Church Eastney Southsea

TATE, Ronald

Death

June 4

1984

Hallowell House 64/66 Hallowell Road

12	Eastleigh Cemetery, TATE, William James & FLOWERS, Maud Lilian 1969 Gravestone.
	Text From Source: < illegible heading > WILLIAM JAMES TATE April 18th 1966 aged 92 MAUD LILIAN TATE July 12th 1969 aged 88
	Eastleigh Cemetery photos at: https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2296209/eastleigh-cemetery.

Source: TATE, William James & FLOWERS, Maud Lilian 1969 Gravestone, TATE, William James & FLOWERS, Maud Lilian 1969 Gravestone

13	Natalie Victoria Hyde, HYDE nee HILL, Natalie Victoria 2018 Email (https://www.ancestry.com/connect/messagecenter/folder/inbox).
	Text From Source: Natalie Hyde Jan 06, 2019 Thanks Mike that’s great. I went to the cemetery today and found the grave stone of William James Tate and Maud Lillian...I will put the picture up. I couldn’t find Maud Tate (age 1) as there was no stone. I will go again soon! Thanks tatewise5a Jan 04, 2019 Hi Natalie, The person next to William has now appeared as Sidney TATE who you have baptised 1 Nov 1903, born 8 Oct 1903, but sadly died Q1 1904 all in Poplar, London. I have research the 1841, 1851, 1861 Census records for Eliza Taylor, which is often the best way to find family relationships. 1841 has the Hayward & Taylor family in East Knoyle, Mere, Wilts: Susanna Hayward age 60 (mother of Emily & Eliza) Emily Hayward age 20 William Taylor age 30 (father of children below) Eliza Taylor age 26 (nee Hayward mother of children) Eliza Taylor age 1 with three older siblings John, William & Susanna 1851 has four of the above also in East Knoyle, Mere, Wilts: Susan Hayward Widow 73 (so William died between 1841 & 1851) Emily Hayward Head 31 John Taylor Nephew 17 Eliza Taylor Niece 10 Not found in 1861 yet, but have parish marriage in East Knoyle: 08 Jul 1833 William Taylor and Elizabeth Hayward with witnesses John Taylor and Thomas Hayward Hope that helps, Mike Tate Natalie Hyde Jan 04, 2019 Mike - I cant seem to get some correct information for the Mother of Eliza, I know that's veering off the track of Tate however. All I seem to have found is her maiden name of Hayward. I cant see anything next to William Tate, so not sure what that is... thanks Natalie Natalie Hyde Jan 04, 2019 Happy new year Mike. I was going to say hope you had a restful Christmas break but by the amount of info you've found you must of been hard at the research! Thank you for finding the true surname of Eliza, when I found POWELL I must say I wasn't 100% sure. and thank you for the tip on the GRO website, not heard of that before so that's makes it easier to check mothers maiden names! They are all my Aunts and Uncles and my mother is the youngest; born on 3rd December 1961. My husband is Jonathan Matthew Cockburn - Born 5th July 1985 I will have a look at the private entry next to William Tate...and write another message! best wishes Natalie tatewise5a Jan 02, 2019 Happy New Year Natalie, I found time between the festivities to review & research this part of the family tree, mainly focussing on the 1939 Register, but many other records too. The updated trees are online as listed below, followed by a summary of my key discoveries. http://www.tatewise.co.uk/ancestry/ https://www.zoompast.com/tree/public_tree_of_user?user_name=tatewise&tree_id=10038 Your great-grandmother was born Maud Lily Flowers, and did not adopt the middle name Lilian until she was 20. Her mother was Eliza TAYLOR (1840-1907) not POWELL. That is proved by the free GRO Online Index Search at https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp Name: FLOWERS, MAUD LILY Mother's Maiden Surname: TAYLOR GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter ATHERSTONE 06D 450 Unless you have a Birth Certificate, etc, that proves differently. I have significantly updated your great-aunts & uncles, the siblings of Lilian & Maud, but in your tree there is a Private entry next to William TATE. Can you give me any clues to their identity. Also I have few conclusive details for Winifred TATE. I have found the following possible children of your grandparents. Which ones are actually your aunts & uncles? Q1 1942 Diane Winchester 2c 266 Q4 1944 Robert J New Forest 2b 1156 Q4 1946 Lynda Winchester 6b 1207 Q1 1956 Roger P Winchester 6b 1040 Q3 1957 Julie A Winchester 6b 1102 Best Regards and fruitful researching in 2019, Mike Tate Natalie Hyde Dec 21, 2018 That's a fantastic website you've built Mike, its great to know all my research has been correct. They were twins yes, Maud died aged 1 in 1920...which I've only just been able to confirm to my Mum recently as they were never sure. no idea what of however. They were born in 97 Nutbeem Road, Eastleigh. Lilian died on 23rd March 1974. On my tree, you can see all the further research of the other siblings. I will let you know of anything else I find out in Brookwood very best wishes, have a great Christmas Natalie tatewise5a Dec 20, 2018 Hi Natalie, Henry and Mary are my great-grandparents and my descendant line is through their son Matthew John Thomas, and his son Bernard. I have comprehensive family records at http://www.tatewise.co.uk/ancestry/ that you are welcome to visit. A link on the Home page takes you to Matthew John Thomas TATE my grandfather where you can easily navigate to either Henry TATE or William James TATE. You can also find people via the Index tab. The same family tree is shown in a novel presentation at https://www.zoompast.com/tree/public_tree_of_user?user_name=tatewise&tree_id=9990. You speak of “Lillian and her baby sister Maud” but my research shows their births were registered together in Q2 1919 so they appear to be twins. Currently I have little more than birth dates for their siblings, but a short search quickly found further records, so I suspect I will be adding to this branch soon. I would certainly be interested in anything you discover at the Brookwood cemetery is in Eastleigh. Merry Christmas, Mike Tate Natalie Hyde Dec 13, 2018 Hi Mike, thanks for your reply. What line do you decent from? I found you as your username was on some of the images you had submitted on Ancestry, such as the grave stone of Henry and Mary and the marriage certificates. Brookwood cemetary is in Eastleigh, Hampshire - which is where my immediate family is from. So Henry and Mary Tate are there, Lillian and her baby sister Maud, and William J and Maud Lillian. Then several siblings I believe too. I plan to go this weekend so will take some photos of we find them. My maternal Grandmother Lillian died when my mother was 12, so the main reason for my research was so she could know when she came from and any further info...it’s been nice to show her some bits! Best Wishes and look forward to hearing from you Natalie tatewise5a Dec 13, 2018 Hi Natalie, That is really interesting and opens up a new branch on my tree. I think it makes us 2nd cousins once removed. I've 9 siblings of Lilian Lewis nee Tate with birth dates & places, but only a few more details for two of them. As a matter of interest where did you find my family tree? Was it on Ancestry or somewhere else? Where exactly is Brookwood Cemetery as I could not find it near where many of my ancestors are known to have died? Which members of the Tate family are buried there? Hope to hear from you soon. Regards, Mike Tate Natalie Hyde Dec 11, 2018 Hi there - I’ve used so much of your amazing research in my own search for the Tate’s! I think Henry and Mary Tate are my great great grandparents. My mum is Sharon Lewis, her mum was Lillian Tate, her dad and mum were William J Tate and Maud Lillian Flowers and then his dad Henry Tate. I’m hoping my research is correct. Almost the whole Tate family are buried in Brookwood Cemetary about half a mile from where I live! If you could tell me anymore about the Tate’s that would be amazing - best wishes Natalie Hyde nee Hill

Natalie Victoria Hyde, HYDE nee HILL, Natalie Victoria 2018 Email (https://www.ancestry.com/connect/messagecenter/folder/inbox).

Text From Source:
Natalie Hyde
Jan 06, 2019

Thanks Mike that’s great.

I went to the cemetery today and found the grave stone of William James Tate and Maud Lillian...I will put the picture up. I couldn’t find Maud Tate (age 1) as there was no stone. I will go again soon!

Thanks

tatewise5a
Jan 04, 2019

Hi Natalie,
The person next to William has now appeared as Sidney TATE who you have baptised 1 Nov 1903, born 8 Oct 1903, but sadly died Q1 1904 all in Poplar, London.

I have research the 1841, 1851, 1861 Census records for Eliza Taylor, which is often the best way to find family relationships.

1841 has the Hayward & Taylor family in East Knoyle, Mere, Wilts:
Susanna Hayward age 60 (mother of Emily & Eliza)
Emily Hayward age 20
William Taylor age 30 (father of children below)
Eliza Taylor age 26 (nee Hayward mother of children)
Eliza Taylor age 1 with three older siblings John, William & Susanna

1851 has four of the above also in East Knoyle, Mere, Wilts:
Susan Hayward Widow 73 (so William died between 1841 & 1851)
Emily Hayward Head 31
John Taylor Nephew 17
Eliza Taylor Niece 10

Not found in 1861 yet, but have parish marriage in East Knoyle:
08 Jul 1833 William Taylor and Elizabeth Hayward
with witnesses John Taylor and Thomas Hayward

Hope that helps, Mike Tate

Natalie Hyde
Jan 04, 2019

Mike - I cant seem to get some correct information for the Mother of Eliza, I know that's veering off the track of Tate however. All I seem to have found is her maiden name of Hayward.

I cant see anything next to William Tate, so not sure what that is...

thanks

Natalie

Natalie Hyde
Jan 04, 2019

Happy new year Mike. I was going to say hope you had a restful Christmas break but by the amount of info you've found you must of been hard at the research!

Thank you for finding the true surname of Eliza, when I found POWELL I must say I wasn't 100% sure. and thank you for the tip on the GRO website, not heard of that before so that's makes it easier to check mothers maiden names!

They are all my Aunts and Uncles and my mother is the youngest; born on 3rd December 1961.

My husband is Jonathan Matthew Cockburn - Born 5th July 1985

I will have a look at the private entry next to William Tate...and write another message!

best wishes

Natalie

tatewise5a
Jan 02, 2019

Happy New Year Natalie,
I found time between the festivities to review & research this part of the family tree, mainly focussing on the 1939 Register, but many other records too. The updated trees are online as listed below, followed by a summary of my key discoveries.

http://www.tatewise.co.uk/ancestry/

https://www.zoompast.com/tree/public_tree_of_user?user_name=tatewise&tree_id=10038

Your great-grandmother was born Maud Lily Flowers, and did not adopt the middle name Lilian until she was 20.
Her mother was Eliza TAYLOR (1840-1907) not POWELL.
That is proved by the free GRO Online Index Search at
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp
Name: FLOWERS, MAUD LILY
Mother's Maiden Surname: TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter ATHERSTONE 06D 450
Unless you have a Birth Certificate, etc, that proves differently.

I have significantly updated your great-aunts & uncles, the siblings of Lilian & Maud, but in your tree there is a Private entry next to William TATE. Can you give me any clues to their identity.
Also I have few conclusive details for Winifred TATE.

I have found the following possible children of your grandparents.
Which ones are actually your aunts & uncles?
Q1 1942 Diane Winchester 2c 266
Q4 1944 Robert J New Forest 2b 1156
Q4 1946 Lynda Winchester 6b 1207
Q1 1956 Roger P Winchester 6b 1040
Q3 1957 Julie A Winchester 6b 1102

Best Regards and fruitful researching in 2019,
Mike Tate

Natalie Hyde
Dec 21, 2018

That's a fantastic website you've built Mike, its great to know all my research has been correct.

They were twins yes, Maud died aged 1 in 1920...which I've only just been able to confirm to my Mum recently as they were never sure. no idea what of however. They were born in 97 Nutbeem Road, Eastleigh. Lilian died on 23rd March 1974.

On my tree, you can see all the further research of the other siblings.

I will let you know of anything else I find out in Brookwood

very best wishes, have a great Christmas

Natalie

tatewise5a
Dec 20, 2018

Hi Natalie,

Henry and Mary are my great-grandparents and my descendant line is through their son Matthew John Thomas, and his son Bernard.

I have comprehensive family records at
http://www.tatewise.co.uk/ancestry/
that you are welcome to visit.
A link on the Home page takes you to Matthew John Thomas TATE my grandfather where you can easily navigate to either Henry TATE or William James TATE.
You can also find people via the Index tab.

The same family tree is shown in a novel presentation at
https://www.zoompast.com/tree/public_tree_of_user?user_name=tatewise&tree_id=9990.

You speak of “Lillian and her baby sister Maud” but my research shows their births were registered together in Q2 1919 so they appear to be twins.
Currently I have little more than birth dates for their siblings, but a short search quickly found further records, so I suspect I will be adding to this branch soon.

I would certainly be interested in anything you discover at the Brookwood cemetery is in Eastleigh.

Merry Christmas, Mike Tate

Natalie Hyde
Dec 13, 2018

Hi Mike, thanks for your reply. What line do you decent from? I found you as your username was on some of the images you had submitted on Ancestry, such as the grave stone of Henry and Mary and the marriage certificates. Brookwood cemetary is in Eastleigh, Hampshire - which is where my immediate family is from.

So Henry and Mary Tate are there, Lillian and her baby sister Maud, and William J and Maud Lillian. Then several siblings I believe too. I plan to go this weekend so will take some photos of we find them.

My maternal Grandmother Lillian died when my mother was 12, so the main reason for my research was so she could know when she came from and any further info...it’s been nice to show her some bits!

Best Wishes and look forward to hearing from you

Natalie

tatewise5a
Dec 13, 2018

Hi Natalie,
That is really interesting and opens up a new branch on my tree.
I think it makes us 2nd cousins once removed.
I've 9 siblings of Lilian Lewis nee Tate with birth dates & places, but only a few more details for two of them.
As a matter of interest where did you find my family tree? Was it on Ancestry or somewhere else?
Where exactly is Brookwood Cemetery as I could not find it near where many of my ancestors are known to have died?
Which members of the Tate family are buried there?
Hope to hear from you soon.
Regards, Mike Tate

Natalie Hyde
Dec 11, 2018

Hi there - I’ve used so much of your amazing research in my own search for the Tate’s! I think Henry and Mary Tate are my great great grandparents. My mum is Sharon Lewis, her mum was Lillian Tate, her dad and mum were William J Tate and Maud Lillian Flowers and then his dad Henry Tate. I’m hoping my research is correct. Almost the whole Tate family are buried in Brookwood Cemetary about half a mile from where I live! If you could tell me anymore about the Tate’s that would be amazing - best wishes Natalie Hyde nee Hill